Some interesting comments discovered on an American Blog site..
a Canadian view, and American Response regarding the "Jesusland map"
and interest in moving to Canada:

1. CANADIAN BLOG COMMENT

Rethink the United States of Canada (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous Hero on Sun Nov 7th, 2004 at 02:35:41 PM EST

As a Canadian, I have to disagree with your proposed 'United States of Canada". Canada has provinces not states, so the name of the expanded country will remain 'Canada'. Please leave your imperial attitudes in your country of origin. You are not taking over Canada, you are arriving as guests with propects of becoming Canadian citizens.
Canada would be pleased to admit Washington as a province in order to round out its protection of its major west coast port of Vancouver.

Canada does not want Oregon or California in order to prevent the emergence of a political entity called Cascadia which, of course, would be a serious blow to a coast-to-coast-to-coast Canada.

Michigan we would probably give to our natives to fulfill the promise we made to them for their support in Canada's victory in the War of 1812.

We would be interested in reclaiming Maine and would also be interested in adding New Hampshire, Vermont and upstate New York. We are not interested in Massachusetts or lower New York state because of the drain on the public purse when global warming indundates Boston and New York City.

In addition, all of this would happen over time in order to avoid an American take over Canadian politics. We will give you time to leave behind all those unproductive American attitudes and adopt the more progressive and communal attitudes of Canadians.

There will be some surprises when an American immigrates to Canada:

1. Canada is a multi-cultural country not a melting pot. This means that you will be involved with people of different cultures on their terms. This tends to keep down jingoism.

2. There is strict gun control and no right to bear arms.

3. There is less litigation in Canada. Monetary awards are significantly less. There are no draconian prison sentences.

Taxes are higher.

6. There is a national medical system. While you are free to choose your physician, you cannot buy treatments.

7. There are two official languages - English and French.

8. If you live in Quebec your children will be educated in a French language school and you will be restricted to an official list of names for new-borns. (no "Moon Units" in Canada - ED) You will meet people who do not or refuse to speak English.

9. Canada's main enemies are the U.S. (now Jesusland) and Denmark.

10. Communism is a legal political party.

11. One of our favourite vacation spots is Cuba.

12. The growing season is shorter. Winter is longer and colder. Be prepared to like and participate in winter sports.

13. Canadians are receptive to but wary of Americans. It will take time for you to become integrated into Candian society.

Canadian patriot

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the famous United States of Canada / jesusland map

The now ICONIC "Jesusland Map"

     2. AMERICAN RESPONSE

Respectful American (none / 0) (#6)
by Burmaid7 on Sun Nov 7th, 2004 at 07:25:05 PM EST
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To the Anonymous Hero... I want to thank you for the information and insight that you provided in your post. I stand as one of the many Americans that researched Canadian immigration the day after the election. I have to admit, even as I was doing it, I was thinking "Is this really right for me? What will happen if I no longer can enjoy the 'freedoms' that I grew up with?'"

Your 13 point list gave me an opportunity to reflect on this question. I would like to share my thoughts.

1. Canada is a multi-cultural country not a melting pot. This means that you will be involved with people of different cultures on their terms. This tends to keep down jingoism.

My point of view is that this can not be anything but healthy.

2. There is strict gun control and no right to bear arms.

This would mean that I could finally sell that gun that I keep and never use, and am actually afraid of. The only reason I have it and keep it is because I think everyone else has a gun, and I should have one 'just in case'.

3. There is less litigation in Canada. Monetary awards are significantly less. There are no draconian prison sentences.

Ok. And that's a problem, why?

[There is apparently no "4" in the Canadian number system, so I will move on]

Taxes are higher.

Taxes are higher to pay for government. I don't see this as a problem. The U.S. has gotten into this mistaken belief that the government is a bad thing. It isn't. The government is there to serve and protect the citizens. Government is the citizen's protection against things like big, wealthy, powerful corporations. When citizens lower their taxes so that they have more money to spend at Wal-Mart, they are essentially choosing to be oppressed.
I am sure that the corporate conglomorate has consciously marketed this idea to Americans so that they can have greater and greater control of the country, and, of course, more money to go into Wal-Mart.

6. There is a national medical system. While you are free to choose your physician, you cannot buy treatments.

I haven't had health insurance since 1992. I was laid off from a job, basically, because I was getting older. Now, I am getting to an age when I could really use health care, but my chances of getting a job at some company where they actually have benefits are zero.

Contrary to what is projected on American TV, not all Americans are getting extreme makeovers and plastic surgery is not the dream of every American. I would just like to get a mammogram once in awhile and know that if I had breast cancer, I wouldn't have to die because I can't pay for treatment.

7. There are two official languages - English and French.

That's fine. I speak one of them. I am planning to learn the other.

8. If you live in Quebec your children will be educated in aFrench language school and you will be restricted to an official list of names for new-borns. You will meet people who do or refuse to speak English.

This is not nearly as big an imposition on me as not being able to be married when I have my children (I am gay).

9. Canada's main enemies are the U.S. (now Jesusland) and Denmark.

Bummer. Denmark is a pretty country.

10. Communism is a legal political party.

As it should be.

11. One of our favourite vacation spots is Cuba.

As it should be.

12. The growing season is shorter. Winter is longer and colder. Be prepared to like and participate in winter sports.

Not for much longer. The U.S. and it's policies ensure that global warming will soon turn Vancouver into the next L.A. I can continue my dream of becoming a professional beach volleyball player.

13. Canadians are receptive to but wary of Americans. It will take time for you to become integrated into Candian society.

Here we agree completely. You see, I was born in the U.S., and I find myself wary, and increasingly less and less receptive to Americans... at least those in Jesusland.

So, thank you, again, Anonymous Hero. You have been a great help to me.

Burmaid7

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